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I recently had roundtable meetings with senior Marketing and HR executives to discuss what is happening with employee communications in their respective organizations. Though I came away with some interesting tidbits and best practices (shared below), the one thing that stood out the most for me was a general lack of strategic direction. The Marketing group in particular discussed at the end of the meeting how the energy level around this topic stood in marked contrast to the meetings we had in prior months on “marketing ROI and lead generation,” topics which sparked lively debate. Our conclusion: perhaps the continued down economy, having to make do with fewer resources and lower headcounts, makes us focus elsewhere? Regardless, weak leadership in this arena certainly runs counter to much of the research that has been done on the importance of fousing on employee communications and internal branding as an important strategy to give your company a “competitive edge.”

I did leave these meetings with some interesting takeaways and reflections:

1) Start with strategy. Figure out what you are trying to accomplish, who your target audience is and then decide on platforms. Make sure you select the VITAL FEW messages you want to disseminate and that messaging in your company has a clear drumbeat and cadence.
2. While it is not clear where functional responsibility for employee communications should reside – opinons varied from marketing, to HR to totally distributive models – everybody seemed to pretty much agree that in order for employee communications to be effective, the executive team has to take ownership for CONTENT. As one marketing executive said, leadership is the CONDUCTOR, and marketing or HR or perhaps a partnership is the orchestra responsible for disseminating key messages.
3. Communicate, communicate, communicate! We need to continue to drive fronline managers to understand the importance of taking the VITAL few messages selected by executive leadership and then REPEATING using many different platforms.
4. Don’t forget old and proven techniques: face-to-face conversations and two-way dialogue continue to be one of the most effective ways to communicate. Tell your managers to go have lunch in the employee lunchroom. Emphasize the importance of doing one-on-ones. Engage in roundtable discussions.
5. Employees yearn for interaction in whatever way it can be offered. Leverage technology and social media such as interactive blogs, collaborative software…anything that invites dialogue is what employees want the most.Some of the fear around social media is unfounded. Companies that have introduced interactive blogs, discussion forums and more are finding that employees tend to self-police pretty effectively. If you want to start doing a company blog, make sure you pick the right person. Someone that is really boring won’t do the trick. Neither will a CEO that is using the blog to share all his vacations to exotic places, dinners at gourmet restaurants, and golf tournaments…..true example shared by one of the executives in attendance. Some of the companies, on hte other hand are using Twitter or Yammer effectively to share across their company what different executives are up to – employees already sufffering from information overload like the “small size” of messages.
6. Be appropriate for you company and industry when you use new technology. What works for a high tech company where everybody has access to a computer is not likely to succeed in a factory setting.
7. Make sure you use your managers in the dissemination of the messages you want to drive. That may mean that you have to give them a tool set, discussion points etc before you ask them to share important news.
8. Have your leadership team establish a standing agenda item at the end of meetings to answer the following question: What are the key messages we are taking out of this meeting that we want to communicate across the organization?
9. Make sure that communications are authentic and not too polished. For example, some of the companies have effectively been using flip videos to share what employees are up to in different locations. Very popular with employees.

What else would you want to add? What are some of the best practices you know of that have not been mentioned?

For more information on Executive Coaching please visit http://www.hrnow.net/coach.htm. Suzanne has two blogs: http://executiveyak.com and http://hrundercover.com/ (we want your workplace stories).

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Rod Brooks, CMO with PEMCO is a long-term member of the MER Roundtable and occasional guest writer of my ExecutiveYak blog. Please help support the families of the fallen officers by forwarding this blogpost link to your network:

http://executiveyak.com/?p=331

 Hi ExecutiveYak Readers:

This is Rod Brooks, CMO at PEMCO Insurance.  We’re deeply saddened by the recent and tragic loss of law enforcement officers in the Puget Sound Region.  As many of our Northwest neighbors have already demonstrated in countless ways, we want to help in whatever way we can.

On Friday, Dec. 11, PEMCO is hosting a fundraising event encouraging the Northwest community to join in supporting the families of local police officers who recently died. 

All are invited to come together in the holiday spirit of giving to help surpass PEMCO’s $12,500 matching commitment with additional contributions — with the ultimate goal being to grow the total funds PEMCO will match and donate to the police officers’ benevolent fund. 

As part of our commitment, PEMCO will match all ticket sale proceeds dollar for dollar and will equally match additional donations made at the event, held at The Canal in Seattle from 6 p.m. – 9 p.m.

The price of admission directly benefits the fallen officers’ families and provides a festive evening to come together as a community to honor and remember those who lost their lives.

Refreshments will be provided, along with fun activities throughout the night. 

The holidays are always a busy time of year, and we announced the event on short notice. Still, we hope you can join us on Friday, Dec. 11 for this worthy cause.  If you can’t attend, we’ve made it easy to support in other ways.  We’ve posted additional information on our blog  and you can also make a difference by donating directly to the Lakewood Police Independent Guild.

Visitors can purchase tickets here for $25 each and all ticket proceeds will directly benefit the benevolent fund established by the Lakewood Police Independent Guild.

This is an overwhelmingly difficult time, and we appreciate your interest in this cause. Our heartfelt condolences go to the families and all those touched by this recent loss.

Many thanks,

Rod Brooks

VP & CMO of PEMCO Insurance
Rod.Brooks@pemco.com
@NW_Mktg_Guy

For more information on Executive Coaching please visit http://www.hrnow.net/coach.htm. Suzanne has two blogs:  http://executiveyak.com and http://hrundercover.com/ (we want your workplace stories).

On the one hand, both marketing and sales functions want the same thing—transactions that produce the revenue and the profits that satisfy the requirements for the viability of the business. However, they go about achieving that in different ways. In a company large enough to have both functions, the marketing people are not making daily sales calls and the salespeople are not developing branding campaigns. The tactics are obviously different despite the fact that the final objective is the same.

What is evident, moreover, is that the tactics used by the marketing function in a business-to-business world all have something in common. They are geared toward achieving an objective that is not short-term focused. With the possible exception of an ad that has a near-term offering, marketing campaigns are designed in terms of frequency of exposure, as well as reach (how often how many people view it). Actions like this take time to have an impact since their persuasiveness is a function of purposefully repetitive and, therefore, cumulative effects. Consequently, these are not drivers of short-term behavior as much as they are promoters of patterns of perception around either the company or its offerings. In simple terms, this is a battle for the attention of a potential buyer as opposed to an effort to close a near-term sale. This, of course, implies the sales function is not considered a marketing tool.

A salesperson may use to his advantage that attention and awareness marketing has engendered, but the sales tactics used will be geared toward facilitating a buying decision in as short a time frame as is feasible given the buyer’s disposition. Examples of this more immediate collection of tactics are: statements of product or service benefits, then questions asking for reactions to benefit statements, “closing” questions related to the perceived value, as well as many leading questions that are designed to move someone closer to revealing their level of interest in buying and, of course, the timing of the buying decision. All of these are used to get agreement on the value of the offering to the buyer, clarify to the buyer sufficient interest in the offering, and finally facilitate a buying decision.

This results in two groups of people whose interests intersect only over a span that is of no immediate curiosity to one group (salespeople) and only in a cumulative fashion to the other (marketing). Is there a way, however, that this difference in time horizons can be capitalized on more effectively by the marketing organization rather than become a source of conflict?

In Philip Kotler’s textbook on marketing, he states: “Marketing has evolved from its early origins in distribution and selling into a comprehensive philosophy for relating any organization dynamically to its markets.” If there were any definition less likely to attract the interest of salespeople, it would be hard to find. On the other hand, if one were to reword, as well as narrow, the focus of the same statement to “an approach to creating a closer relationship between salespeople and their prospects,” you might get some salespeople to take notice.

What might other marketing principles look like if put in a “sales” perspective? To explore this, one only needs to start with understanding one of the critical concepts in modern marketing theory, the “marketing mix.”

Product, Place, Promotion, and Price

According to Kotler, “Marketing mix is the set of controllable variables and their levels that the firm uses to influence the target market.” He considers four variables: “Product, Place, Promotion, and Price,” although some marketing strategists like to include “Packaging,” as well.

For the purposes of this discussion, we will focus on “Product.” Theodore Levitt’s marketing text titled, “The Marketing Imagination,” offers the first instance of someone describing a product as a layered concept starting with the core or “generic” center without which one cannot compete, i.e., what is covered by the purchase agreement, and successively adding more layers, which include the “expected” product, i.e., price, payment terms, delivery, technical support, and anything else that comprises the minimally expected features necessary to the customer; the “augmented” product, i.e., unrequired reporting, helpful advice, special delivery, or anything the customer perceives to be surpassing its minimum expectations but still key to successfully selling the product; and finally, the “potential” product, which is anything that may be added or changed, a product-related variable that is possible depending on changing circumstances in the marketplace and existing primarily to grow the product’s viability over time.

It’s important to understand what professional marketers think the “product” consists of. This is what the generally accepted marketing experts believe is the most effective and useful way of looking at what it is salespeople sell. Note the salespeople themselves are not considered part of this paradigm. They don’t fall into any of the concentric circles of the product concept, although special delivery and technical support do.

Direct selling, however, is considered by these same authors to fall into the category of “marketing communication.” This includes advertising, sales promotion (samples, coupons, contests, and buying allowances), and publicity (public relations). However, direct selling, sometimes referred to as “personal selling,” is believed to have certain unique qualities. Kotler describes personal selling as having three unique attributes:

1. “Personal confrontation. Personal selling involves an alive, immediate, and interactive relationship between two or more persons.”

2. “Cultivation. Personal selling permits all kinds of relationships to spring up, ranging from a matter-of-fact selling relationship to a deep personal friendship.”

3. “Response. Personal selling, in contrast to advertising, makes the buyer feel under some obligation for having listened to the sales talk or using up the sales representative’s time.”

Psychological Aspect

Beyond Kotler’s description of the distinctive aspects of personal selling, it also should be noted that many authors of “how to” sales books discuss some of the psychological aspects of buyers who prefer to buy from salespeople they identify with or they believe represent “success,” however they may define that. This could mean preferring to buy from someone who drives an expensive car or someone whose fashionable dress projects success or someone whose network includes other successful people. Clearly, no matter how one looks at this form of marketing communication, some powerful forces are at play here—more powerful in persuading a buyer to buy than the simple communication of product benefits or even the purported subliminal appeal to psychological predispositions inherent in some advertisements.

Do these differences between personal selling and other marketing communication tools suggest taking a different perspective? Is it sufficiently different to have us rethink the traditional view marketers or marketing professors have promulgated since the first printing of Philip Kotler’s “Marketing Management” in 1980? In my opinion, yes, it does.

Why? Well, if we could simply say a sales call can be quantified in some way consistent with the frequency, reach, and other statistical formulations associated with advertising, public relations, and other promotional efforts, then perhaps there wouldn’t be the qualitative differences that cause the traditional categorization of personal selling to potentially have less value. The fact that a sales meeting can be a “stressful encounter” and that it can build a “relationship” that also may induce a buyer to feel an “obligation” to respond in some fashion should make it clear we are dealing with an entirely different situation than that engendered by other forms of marketing.

How different is this? What new way should anyone, no less a marketer, use to view the role of the salesperson? What are the implications of this new perspective for hiring salespeople, managing them, and facilitating their effectiveness?

Since I believe personal selling cannot be lumped together with advertising, promotion, and other forms of marketing communication, it, therefore, must be placed in some other conceptual space that is more appropriate. What might that be?

First, let’s look back at the concept of the “whole product.” Note the “expected product” area. This layer describes that part of the whole product where the customer’s minimum expectation of features, capabilities, or support beyond that of the generic or core product are met. As Theodore Levitt wrote, “Every customer has minimal purchase conditions that exceed the generic product itself.”

Examples that have been given of this “minimal expectation” include things such as delivery terms, payment terms, and technical support associated with product offerings; a suitable office for the customer to meet with a realtor; and a pleasing personality in an attorney when associated with a service offering. These examples suggest a close connection with the core product and although not an integral part of the “core,” still are required to make a sale. Along these lines, aren’t there personally sold products or services where a particular sales approach, personality, or expertise also is required for the sale to take place?

For an appropriate example, let’s look at the outsourced software development business, which is a technically focused service described using idiosyncratic language to people who have an understanding of its principles. Selling this service requires a facility with terms such as “software development life cycle (SDLC),” “waterfall methodology,” “SCRUM,” “prioritized feature lists,” “code reviews,” “bug levels,” and much more. These words describe the particular processes used to develop software and how the outcome of the programming effort is evaluated and measured. Without knowing this unique language, a salesperson would have no effective way to communicate how the service is differentiated, no less described in ways similar to a competitor’s.

Additionally, due to the significant cost associated with software development, the financial risk associated with outsourcing this activity is considerable. Moreover, if the outcome of the outsourced project exceeds the budget and/or time frame it was allocated, or in the worst case—which happens more frequently in this business than generally recognized—a complete failure occurs, people’s careers can be tragically impacted.

Consequently, the degree to which the prospective customer trusts the salesperson’s portrayal of a positive outcome perforce becomes a significant factor in the decision-making process. The track record of the firm, the track record of the particular methodology of development used, the reputation of the developers and managers, and, of course, the passion with which the salesperson describes the firm’s dedication to the success of his or her customers all play a role in the purchasing decision.

To say the facilitation of a sale in the aforementioned service industry requires personal selling rather than another form of marketing communication is so generally accepted that I have yet to find a company selling this service for the purpose of doing non-trivial information technology projects without a direct sales organization of some kind. Outsourcing software development to lower cost labor centers such as India, Vietnam, China, and Eastern Europe for enterprise-level applications still involves a personal selling effort whose characteristics mirror those just described.

Effectively, personal selling in the example above has become part of a customer’s minimal expectation for the “product.” The question then becomes whether or not this alters the ways in which firms in industries where personal selling is actually a component of the “expected product” hire and train their salespeople.

Salesperson Selection

So, if salespeople could be considered in any given instance part of the minimum expectations the potential customer has for what is included with the product or service, then what might happen to the selection process for these salespeople? Would the marketing department be involved to make certain its view of the service or product’s positioning was an influencing factor in the hiring decision? Would the hire be viewed by executives as more important and, therefore, suggest they become part of the interviewing process?

Once hired, would the salesperson’s training be any more extensive than would otherwise be the case? Would the positioning of the product or service be taught any differently? Would the salesperson become part of that positioning? Would the dress, speech, demeanor, or target of the sales call be altered in a meaningful way?

Responses to these questions, of course, will tend toward situational, industry-specific, and company culture-oriented answers. However, the prospect of focusing more on these questions as a result of a new perspective regarding the relationship of personal selling to the whole product concept should produce different and potentially superior results. Realizing there are more powerful forces at play in the salesperson—more prospect interaction than could ever exist in the interplay between other marketing communication vehicles and the prospective customer—makes for a different and potentially much more effective selling process. Taking greater care of the implications for personnel selection and training are an obvious consequence.

When sales is viewed more as an integral part of the “expected product,” marketing’s view of the role of personal selling in the marketing mix will have to change, and with it, the importance of understanding the value of the salesperson. Although a simple hypothesis, a change in thinking about the nature of the “whole product” may have powerful repercussions for the place personal selling has in businesses where effective direct selling is crucial.

Cliff Chirls has held a variety of sales management, marketing, and general management positions in his 30-year career, including the role of marketing director at Aldus Corporation (which merged with Adobe), where he managed the company’s $60 million graphics products business, and chief operating officer of SolutionsIQ, a $50 million IT services firm. He currently is managing partner at the Effectiveness Institute, a global training and consulting firm based in Redmond, WA. Contact him at cliff@effectivenessinstitute.com.

Suzanne Elshult sponsors live round tables for senior marketing and human resources executives and offers executive / professional coaching and virtual learning opportunities for leaders, business owners, consultants and coaches committed to growth and high performance.

In my last post we explored how HR can help Marketing. In this post, the  third of four in a series on Internal Branding, the focus is on how Marketing can help HR. Here are some ideas brainstormed in my joint Marketing/HR Executive Roundtable  a few weeks ago:

  • Bring creative expertise to internal branding
  • Provide writing and messaging support
  • Foster enthusiasm for internal initiatives
  • Help HR stay informed about external strategies
  • Share  expertise for soliciting feedback to get internal/employee input
  • Capturing and publicizing brand heroes during a relaunch
  • Connect to Purpose campaign to use testimonials from customers as an external branding campaign
  • Hold events for employees centered on your products and/or mission
  • Encourage employees to hold parties celebrating a new product launch, and introduce the product to your friends/families; providing marketing materials and small incentives  (grassroots marketing)

 In my final post in my internal branding series we will discuss how social media is impacting internal branding. Stay tuned!

Question: What are some other ideas on how Marketing can support HR in internal branding? What is your marketing department doing?  What are the barries and opportunities?

For more information on Executive Coaching please visit http://www.hrnow.net/coach.htm. Suzanne has two blogs:  http://executiveyak.com and http://hrundercover.com/ (we want your workplace stories).

Suzanne Elshult sponsors live round tables for senior marketing and human resources executives and offers executive / professional coaching and virtual learning opportunities for leaders, business owners, consultants and coaches committed to growth and high performance.

It  is not always easy to know where marketing ends and where HR starts and vice versa. For HR and marketing executives to not run into each other takes a commitment to coordinate, communicate and collaborate. The bottomline question is: what is good for the company, not what is good for HR or Marketing. The main focus for executives should be on representing the company, not their own  functional goals and interests. Here are some ideas for how HR can help Marketing brainstormed in my joint Marketing/HR Executive Roundtable  a few weeks ago:

  • Help recruit employees that reflect the community that Marketing is trying to target  (for example Spanish customer service reps needed before marketing to the Latino community)
  • Partner to help communicate marketing initiatives to employees in advance of launch
  • Connect and work together regularly; reporting to the same executive helps
  • Work together to collect survey data from employees
  • Find ways to make sure the customer story and brand is reflected in human resources training/communication/orientation
  • Make sure  new recruits are a cultural fit to the brand
  • Help with the details of the big picture; fill in the blanks
  • Combat turfism together; sit at the same table on strategic initiatives
  • Have employees help with tradeshow booth, to learn about the event/tradeshow and the products featured
  • Bring customers to employee meetings to help convey brand positioning and customer perspective
  • Help with consistency in communications – inconsistency is the enemy of authenticity
  • Use employees to evangelize the brand in whatever ways you can think of

In my next post, we will explore how Marketing can help HR.

Question: What kind of leader are you? As a member of the executive team, do you represent your own functional interests or those of the overall organization? Or both? 

For more information on Executive Coaching please visit http://www.hrnow.net/coach.htm. Suzanne has two blogs:  http://executiveyak.com and http://hrundercover.com/ (we want your workplace stories).

Suzanne Elshult sponsors live round tables for senior marketing and human resources executives and offers executive / professional coaching and virtual learning opportunities for leaders, business owners, consultants and coaches committed to growth and high performance.

What happens when you put 50 high-powered HR and Marketing Executives in one room for three hours to explore:

1. How can Marketing help HR?
2. How can HR help Marketing?
3. What are the Implications of social media for internal branding?

These are the questions we posed to the Seattle HR Executive Forum and Marketing Executive Roundtable in a recent joint meeting? Sounding kind of dull? You’d better rethink that. Just check these terrific graphic notes to get a sense of the energy and creativity in the room:

http://www.hrnow.net/internalbrandinggraphicnotes.htm

In fact so much rich content came out of this roundtable, I plan to do a series of blog posts over the next several weeks. Today I’ll give you the general flavor of the discussion and also share one success story of a company where HR and Marketing have done an outstanding job of partnering in a re-branding initiative: PEMCO, here in the Pacific Northwest.

Pretty much everybody in the room agreed that Marketing and HR need to partner and where they come together the most is in the brand, and how the internal brand interacts with and reflects the external brand. Easy say, hard do! It takes time, it means working through turf issues and conflicting views on the right approach. And, the process must be authentic! The employee value proposition needs to align with the true situation (anywhere from the physical environment, to the kind of artwork and furniture chosen, to the dress code – or lack thereof – adopted, and more).

It is not uncommon to see a huge disconnect between a company’s internal and external brand. One of the examples shared was a company with a strong internal brand and culture which was smart, unique and fun, but by no means represented in the external brand which was created by scientists favoring informative but very dense materials.

PEMCO is a great example of a company that dramatically changed it’s brand over a period of years from a meat and potatoe type company to one that has clearly set itself apart by emphasizing it’s unique focus and presence in and identification with the Pacific Northwest. Living here and not being aware of the PEMCO NW Profiles campaign is hard to impossible. The Chief Marketing and Chief People Officers understood from the very beginning that they needed to look at both internal and external branding to make the shift the company needed. In fact, HR and Marketing formed a “Brand Council” and aggressively went to work to take the external brand values and develop employee competencies reflecting the new and desired culture. Many new initiatives were launched to facilitate the change internally to better reflect the external brand. Here are some examples:

• New benefit programs including domestic partners and a wellness initiatives
• Initiatives supporting employee community participation
• Branded clothing for employees
• Introduction of authentic brand value and collaboration techniques such as the World Café, Open Space and Appreciative Inquiry
• A thought leadership and author series initiative (for example bringing local poets to events)
• A new Leadership Initiative emphasizing authenticity and interaction
• Employee events supporting the Northwest Profiles campaign
• A new, more informal dress code (even allowing blue jeans for special events….historically a BIG NONO!)
• New artwork and furniture reflect the new NW brand
• Focus on sustainability. The PEMCO carbon footprint is tracked and posted for all employees and customers to see.

PEMCO is without a doubt a great example of what can happen when HR and Marketing work together.

In my next blog post, I plan to share some specific tools, ideas, resources and reflections that came out in response to the three questions I started out with in this post. You don’t want to miss this! Stay tuned….

For more information on Executive Coaching please visit http://www.hrnow.net/coach.htm. Suzanne has two blogs:  http://executiveyak.com and http://hrundercover.com/ (we want your workplace stories).

This Fall my marketing and HR executive roundtables will have a joint session on: Do You Have An Internal Branding Strategy: Potent Opportunity in a Volatile Economy for Marketing and HR Executives I expect about 40 executives to attend and am designing the session to be provocative and interactive and make my business mantras of  creating “managed chaos” and “community for leaders” come alive. Did you know that I -more or less - have outlawed powerpoint presentations in my roundtable sessions? The idea is to have real, authentic interactions in a safe and supportive environment where we can respectfully disagree and get our juices going. Here are some of the intriguing topics we plan to address:

 

·         How often do you see Marketing and HR executives get together to creatively explore partnering opportunities and to work jointly on branding strategies? Not very often I would venture. Yet, there are incredible possibilities for synergy, for bringing HR and Marketing together to create an organizational culture that is on brand, on-strategy and to jointly nurture a culture that delivers bottom-line results. HR can play a key role in helping Marketing develop internal communications that help employees “live the brand.” And, at the same time, Marketing can importantly bolster HR’s ability to recruit and retain top talent aligned with the company brand.

·         While in the past, internal branding may have been talked about a lot, it has more often than not taken the backseat to an external focus and been considered by many as a “nice to have.” One might argue that we have a unique opportunity in this volatile economy to define and deliver an internal brand that delivers on your marketplace promise. Your employees, if given the right incentives and tools, can become the biggest champions of your brand.

·         New opportunities to leverage social media and Web 2.0 in internal branding. Let’s face it, your employees can importantly impact brand experience and also influence public opinion. They are out there on social media whether you like it or not, and if you embrace this fact and integrate social media into your internal branding strategy in a deliberate and strategic way, the likelihood that you will be able to leverage their online sharing in a positive way goes way up! If there are appropriate guidelines, employee use of social media can importantly improve your brand (the opposite would also be true) while at the same time help create an “alive” culture with engaged employees.

 

What other topics would you want to see on the table –front and center – if you were able to get a real high-powered group of marketing and HR executives from an eclectic group companies together in one room?

 

Do you have a unique perspective or experience you would like to add to one of our topics?

Joint Sales and Marketing Roundtable: New world, new debate?

Posted by Suzanne On June - 25 - 2009

To many outsiders, the sales and marketing departments look alike. Yet, when you analyze the functions you begin to understand the differences and why it is sometimes so challenging to get good coordination and integration. Bottom line: in today’s market, the sales and marketing function, more than ever before, must collaborate at every level to support a strong business strategy that is executed well.  The days of easy separation between the two functions are over. The world has changed! So, with that in mind, I recently worked with another consultant that runs a sales executive roundtable to have her  leaders engage with my marketing executive roundtable in a safe, yet provocative environment to address three aspects about the marketing/sales relationship:

 

1)      What makes for a GOOD relationship between sales and marketing?

2)      Why ISN’t the relationship between sales and marketing working?

3)      What are the game changers on the horizon for sales and marketing

 

These sales and marketing executives (twenty plus of them) had never met before. They were intrigued with the idea of coming together in a setting to communicate authentically and openly with peers in an environment of trust. The whole idea behind the marketing executive roundtable is to build community amongst leaders, and to do so by using a communications model that helps us get out of our comfort zones, encourages peer coaching and interaction. The success of the model, I believe is that it is NOT replicating the kinds of experiences we all have as senior executives at conferences and seminars (which, by the way, have their place and value). The roundtable focus is on engagement, creating new synergies and ideas. Powerpoint presentations are, if not outright forbidden, at least very strongly discouraged and, in fact, rarely used.

 

Here are some of the observations made by the group in response to the questions we used to focus the dialogue:

 

What makes for a GOOD relationship between sales and marketing?

·         Mutual respect for each other’s needs

·         Building the relationship. Having fun together. Socializing. Building trust. Honest communications.

·         Sales is part of the R&D department – listening to them

·         Marketing demonstrates value/metrics

·         Marketing listens and delivers on what the sales team needs

·         There is an open dialog. Participation is rewarded

·         Marketing ties in the long term strategic plan with sales’ current needs

·         Both parties own the process and are  involved in marketing strategy

·         Sales shares success stories and marketing helps package testimonials

·         Sales and marketing rotate staff – walking in each other’s shoes

·         Marketing understands that sales is their #1 customer

·         Metrics are integrated. Goals and reward systems are aligned

 

Why ISN’t the relationship between sales and marketing working?

 

·         3 C’s of Conflict = Communication, Culture, Compensation

o   Not enough buy in

o   Power struggle. Marketing is perceived as ivory tower.  Sales doesn’t have time for marketing.

o   Everyone is a marketing expert: “I hate the CEOs wife!!!”

o   Age and gender differences. Marketing tends to be younger and turn over more. Sales stays around. More women in marketing.

o   Communication challenges – marketing is using more academic vocabulary. Sales: “If the dog don’t eat, what do you do?”

o   Technology challenges – with sales? Marketing tends to be more technologically advanced. Sales tends to be relationship oriented.

o   Sales on quality vs quantity

o   Lack of trust

o   Cultural differences

o   Lack of opportunity to share

o   Centralization vs decentralization

o   Different measurables for success – sales has a quota!

o   Academic elite impression of marketing

o   Marketing not providing the “right” tools for sales

o   Sales is street smart

o   Not balancing tactical and strategic

o   Marketing thinks they have all the answers

o   Physical separation

o   Not enough opportunity to communicate using informal channels

o   Marketing communicates too much information to sales – becomes a distraction

o   Sales does not understand why employees need to be trained on brand

o   Sales does not feel marketing gives them what they want.  Marketing does not feel sales takes advantage  of the opportunities marketing provides.

o   Sales does not provide the data marketing needs to establish ROI

 

So was the joint roundtable a success? I believe the interactive model lived up to it’s reputation as reflected by the  group’s strongly expressed desire for meeting again to more fully explore “game changers,” a discussion that ended up being short-changed, but obviously has huge potential. Interestingly, many participants are getting together for a social after work this Summer as well. It will be interesting to see where this leads….

 

What do you believe is missing from the lists above?

 

What do you believe the game changers are?

 

PEMCO Insurance: An Experimental Tweet-Up Success

Guest Writer: Rod Brooks, VP and CMO, PEMCO

 

Overview

As Washington’s largest locally based insurer, PEMCO Insurance believes people of the Northwest deserve an insurance company as different as they are. That’s the sentiment behind the company’s “We’re A Lot Like You. A Little Different.” ad campaign, which seeks to celebrate the differences – or quirks – shared by many in the Northwest through profiles of recognizable residents. 

 

On May 20, 2009, PEMCO hosted a reception at Seattle’s iconic Space Needle to unveil its newest Northwest Profile – the “4-Way Stop, You Go, No You Go, No You Go Guy.”  The event’s purpose was to celebrate the new profile and to debut its 30-second TV ad that would be featured in a story on Evening Magazine, the local NBC affiliate’s news magazine show. 

 

In anticipation for Evening Magazine’s behind-the-scenes look at what goes into making a PEMCO ad, PEMCO convened a group of internal employees, the company’s creative partners, and a handful of VIP contacts who have been following the campaign and its success. In total, about 65 people attended, eager to view the world premier of the “4-Way Stop” ad. 

 

Challenges and Opportunities

Invitations to the event were largely extended to guests via Twitter during the two days leading up to the event.  As such, attendees were already savvy to social media tools, but many had not had the opportunity to meet face-to-face. 

 

As the company leveraged Twitter as a word-of-mouth tool to invite an array of guests, the event evolved into an experimental “Tweet-Up,” or event that largely uses Twitter as a means to plan and promote a social meet-up of people who share a common interest. 

 

Given the event’s format, the Tweet-Up provided an opportunity for PEMCO to achieve the following objectives:

·         Celebrate PEMCO employees and PEMCO creative partners for dedication and hard work on PEMCO’s “We’re A Lot Like You. A Little Different.” ad campaign.

·         Promote the Evening Magazine segment to a broader audience

·         Incite PEMCO VIPs/social media contacts to tweet/blog/etc. about PEMCO to increase the company’s online presence in the social media realm.

·         Educate the Northwest market on PEMCO Insurance’s presence on Twitter.

·         Introduce PEMCO team members to influencers and relevant social media contacts. 

 

Strategy

The PEMCO team focused on reaching out to a targeted group of influencers in the Seattle social media scene via Twitter invitations by PEMCO CMO, Rod Brooks (Twitter: NW_Mktg_Guy). PEMCO invited these influencers, PEMCO VIPs, with the goal of building relationships and engaging in meaningful conversations with more experienced social media practitioners in a social setting.

 

To encourage tweeting, we developed the hashtag #NWProfile, placed signage highlighting the tag throughout venue and included a real-time Twitterfall feed on a big screen to display tweets about PEMCO.

 

Through interactive activities, such as the PEMCO mobile photo program, the company was able to stimulate positive Word of Mouth mentions across all social media platforms.  Attendees were encouraged to pose for a photo, which they later received as a party favor after the new profile was revealed.

 

Results

  • Raised awareness of PEMCO brand and local values among target audience of social media practitioners
    • Real-time coverage included livestream, twitpics and tweets
    • Post-event coverage included blog posts and Twitter mentions

 

  • Increased the number of relevant PEMCO mentions on Twitter by 100 percent in one day.
    • PEMCO received about 107 tweets between April 21, 2009 – May 21, 2009 according to www.socialmention.com.
    • In less than 24 hours, the #NWProfile tag received 102 tweets by 32 unique authors with a 53:0 ratio in sentiment (positive vs. negative mentions).

 

  • Incited positive blog mentions about launch events and the PEMCO ad campaign
    • Blog Mentions included comments like:

“I salute PEMCO for combining the use of traditional Media, Sponsorships, Social Media and the web to create a well balanced synergistic campaign, that fits well with their campaign slogan, “We’re a lot like you.  A little different.”

Steve Lawson, Founder, Friendly Voice

 

What the local NBC affiliate showed during our event.

http://www.king5.com/video/eveningmagazine-index.html?nvid=363721&shu=1    

 

The finished TV Commercial 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XdohA-4tQ0&feature=channel_page   

 

The microsite of NW Profiles / Ads / Interactive options

http://werealotlikeyou.com/   

 

Example of post tweet-up blog ent

http://friendlyvoice.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/pemco/  

 

 

 

  

A few days ago I met with my roundtable group of 25+  marketing executives from a very eclectic group of companies and industries to discuss how they are responding to social media.  Some of these executives have barely dipped their toe in the water. Others have taken the plunge and are treading water, while yet others are in the eye of the storm.

 

 

Here are some key bullet points from the roundtable discussion: 

  • Get clear about why you’re taking the plunge. As marketers, think about using social media in terms of critical strategy and keeping your target audience and corporate business goals front and center. Blogging and tweeting are just activities serving no particular useful purpose unless you know what you are trying to accomplish. The end goal is not to “be on facebook.”  Define your ROI! Are you seeking a reduction in number of calls to your customer service center, are you seeking publicity for a new product, or awareness of your cause marketing initiative? What else?
  • Carve out the time to learn the technology and not feel guilty about it. It doesn’t cost anything (except your time). It costs way more NOT to be involved.
  • Be open to learning, allow yourself  to “goof”, change your assumptions and have ah-ha moments.
  • Make sure that you, your CEO and executive team are “socially relevant.” This may mean having to become clever in your strategy to convince your CEO and peers to dip their toes in the water. Find out what their  passions are and help them get started by monitoring activity in that arena. Perhaps your CEO is a motorcycle fanatic? Perhaps your CFO is a gourmet cook? Show them how they can use the technology by feeding their passion.
  • Get help. Find a mentor. Hire an intern. Get a consultant to do some behind-the-scenes social media coaching.
  • Be patient. Give yourself time to gradually immerse yourself. No way to take shortcuts. Build your network and expertise over time. This is about engaging in conversation and building community.
  •  Find out who else in your company is using social media and partner up. For example, HR is using social media extensively in attracting and recruiting prospects.
  • Recognize the potential of social media as a public relations tool as well as a crisis management tool.
  • Be yourself or be your brand, but be authentic/transparent either way. Social media allows you to become more authentic in your relationships with customers. Listen to  both the good and the bad, complaints as well as compliments.
  • Take advantage of the ability of social media to track trends and listen to the “voice of the customer” in unique ways that supplement your more traditional research methods. Use search functions to track keywords and monitor how folks are talking about your company and industry.
  • Leverage the ability to reach your influencers and journalists that cover your industry. These folks, in turn, can carry messages/issues to larger audiences.
  • Recognize that the boundary between your personal and professional life is getting blurred (use privacy settings on social media sites such as Facebook).
  • Capture the existing passion of your audience/customers. Don’t try to force a conversation.
  • Use social media to break up “the arthritis in the joints” in your organization. If you have web sites that are “old” and your IT staff is not very responsive to updating requests, social media will provide you with another venue to communicate quickly, immediately and authentically with your customers.
  • Use social media to tie a cause to your brand (cause marketing). For example Tide’s “Loads of Hope” raised $100,000 in four hours via Twitter.
  • Use social media as a tool for competitive intelligence and measurement. Tealium was mentioned as a tool that goes beyond Google Analytics.

What other advice do you have?

 

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I am a seasoned executive, coach and facilitator with 20 plus years senior management level experience in a variety of industries and organizations. My leadership development and coaching practice has included executive coaching and facilitation of roundtables for senior leaders since 1996. I currently have over 70 active corporate clients. I have particular expertise in organizational and interpersonal effectiveness, strategic thinking and learning systems.